The Importance of Baptism with Water for Salvation cont…

St Irenaeus. ‘Against Heresies. 1; 21’. 


And when we come to refute them, we shall show in its fitting-place, that this class of men have been instigated by Satan to a denial of that baptism which is regeneration to God, and thus to a renunciation of the whole [Christian] faith.

St Basil The Great. ‘De Spiritu Sancto’.


For perfection of life the imitation of Christ is necessary, not only in the example of gentleness, lowliness, and long suffering set us in His life, but also of His actual death. So Paul, the imitator of Christ, says, being made conformable unto his death; if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. Philippians 3:10-11 How then are we made in the likeness of His death? Romans 6:4-5  In that we were buried with Him by baptism. What then is the manner of the burial? And what is the advantage resulting from the imitation? First of all, it is necessary that the continuity of the old life be cut. And this is impossible less a man be born again, according to the Lord’s word; John 3:3 for the regeneration, as indeed the name shows, is a beginning of a second life. So before beginning the second, it is necessary to put an end to the first. For just as in the case of runners who turn and take the second course, a kind of halt and pause intervenes between the movements in the opposite direction, so also in making a change in lives it seemed necessary for death to come as mediator between the two, ending all that goes before, and beginning all that comes after. How then do we achieve the descent into hell? By imitating, through baptism, the burial of Christ. For the bodies of the baptized are, as it were, buried in the water. Baptism then symbolically signifies the putting off of the works of the flesh; as the apostle says, you were circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ; buried with him in baptism. Colossians 2:11-12 And there is, as it were, a cleansing of the soul from the filth that has grown on it from the carnal mind, as it is written, You shall wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow. On this account we do not, as is the fashion of the Jews, wash ourselves at each defilement, but own the baptism of salvation to be one. For there the death on behalf of the world is one, and one the resurrection of the dead, whereof baptism is a type. For this cause the Lord, who is the Dispenser of our life, gave us the covenant of baptism, containing a type of life and death, for the water fulfils the image of death, and the Spirit gives us the earnest of life. Hence it follows that the answer to our question why the water was associated with the Spirit is clear: the reason is because in baptism two ends were proposed; on the one hand, the destroying of the body of sin, that it may never bear fruit unto death; on the other hand, our living unto the Spirit, and having our fruit in holiness; the water receiving the body as in a tomb figures death, while the Spirit pours in the quickening power, renewing our souls from the deadness of sin unto their original life. This then is what it is to be born again of water and of the Spirit, the being made dead being effected in the water, while our life is wrought in us through the Spirit. In three immersions, then, and with three invocations, the great mystery of baptism is performed, to the end that the type of death may be fully figured, and that by the tradition of the divine knowledge the baptized may have their souls enlightened. It follows that if there is any grace in the water, it is not of the nature of the water, but of the presence of the Spirit. For baptism is not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience towards God. 1 Peter 3:21 .

St. Gregory of Nyssa . “On the Baptism of Christ”


Let us however, if it seems well, persevere in enquiring more fully and more minutely concerning Baptism, starting, as from the fountain-head, from the Scriptural declaration, Unless a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Why are both named, and why is not the Spirit alone accounted sufficient for the completion of Baptism? Man, as we know full well, is compound, not simple: and therefore the cognate and similar medicines are assigned for healing to him who is twofold and conglomerate:— for his visible body, water, the sensible element—for his soul, which we cannot see, the Spirit invisible, invoked by faith, present unspeakably. For the Spirit breathes where He wills, and you hear His voice, but canst not tell whence He comes or whither He goes. He blesses the body that is baptized, and the water that baptizes. Despise not, therefore, the Divine laver, nor think lightly of it, as a common thing, on account of the use of water. For the power that operates is mighty, and wonderful are the things that are wrought thereby…
And the wood of the Cross is of saving efficacy for all men, though it is, as I am informed, a piece of a poor tree, less valuable than most trees are. So a bramble bush showed to Moses the manifestation of the presence of God: so the remains of Elisha raised a dead man to life; so clay gave sight to him that was blind from the womb. And all these things, though they were matter without soul or sense, were made the means for the performance of the great marvels wrought by them, when they received the power of God. Now by a similar train of reasoning, water also, though it is nothing else than water, renews the man to spiritual regeneration , when the grace from above hallows it. And if any one answers me again by raising a difficulty, with his questions and doubts, continually asking and inquiring how water and the sacramental act that is performed therein regenerate, I most justly reply to him, Show me the mode of that generation which is after the flesh, and I will explain to you the power of regeneration in the soul. You will say perhaps, by way of giving an account of the matter, It is the cause of the seed which makes the man. Learn then from us in return, that hallowed water cleanses and illuminates the man. And if you again object to me your How? I shall more vehemently cry in answer, How does the fluid and formless substance become a man? and so the argument as it advances will be exercised on everything through all creation. How does heaven exist? How earth? How sea? How every single thing? For everywhere men’s reasoning, perplexed in the attempt at discovery, falls back upon this syllable how, as those who cannot walk fall back upon a seat. To speak concisely, everywhere the power of God and His operation are incomprehensible and incapable of being reduced to rule, easily producing whatever He wills, while concealing from us the minute knowledge of His operation. Hence also the blessed David, applying his mind to the magnificence of creation, and filled with perplexed wonder in his soul, spoke that verse which is sung by all, O Lord, how manifold are Your works: in wisdom have You made them all. The wisdom he perceived: but the art of the wisdom he could not discover. Let us then leave the task of searching into what is beyond human power, and seek rather that which shows signs of being partly within our comprehension:— what is the reason why the cleansing is effected by water? And to what purpose are the three immersions received? That which the fathers taught, and which our mind has received and assented to, is as follows:— We recognize four elements, of which the world is composed, which every one knows even if their names are not spoken; but if it is well, for the sake of the more simple, to tell you their names, they are fire and air, earth and water. Now our God and Saviour, in fulfilling the Dispensation for our sakes, went beneath the fourth of these, the earth, that He might raise up life from thence. And we in receiving Baptism, in imitation of our Lord and Teacher and Guide, are not indeed buried in the earth (for this is the shelter of the body that is entirely dead, covering the infirmity and decay of our nature), but coming to the element akin to earth, to water, we conceal ourselves in that as the well, for the sake of the more simple, to tell you their names, they are fire and air, earth and water. Now our God and Saviour, in fulfilling the Dispensation for our sakes, went beneath the fourth of these, the earth, that He might raise up life from thence. And we in receiving Baptism, in imitation of our Lord and Teacher and Guide, are not indeed buried in the earth (for this is the shelter of the body that is entirely dead, covering the infirmity and decay of our nature), but coming to the element akin to earth, to water, we conceal ourselves in that as the Saviour did in the earth: and by doing this thrice we represent for ourselves that grace of the Resurrection which was wrought in three days: and this we do, not receiving the sacrament in silence, but while there are spoken over us the Names of the Three Sacred Persons on Whom we believed, in Whom we also hope, from Whom comes to us both the fact of our present and the fact of our future existence.

St. Ambrose. On the Mysteries


20. Therefore read that the three witnesses in baptism, the water, the blood, and the Spirit, 1 John 5:7 are one, for if you take away one of these, the Sacrament of Baptism does not exist. For what is water without the cross of Christ? A common element, without any sacramental effect. Nor, again, is there the Sacrament of Regeneration without water: For except a man be born again of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:5  Now, even the catechumen believes in the cross of the Lord Jesus, wherewith he too is signed; but unless he be baptized in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, he cannot receive remission of sins nor gain the gift of spiritual grace.

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except any one be born of water and of Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

The Significance and Importance of Baptism with Water.

Denied and repudiated by the heretical Vatican II Church and the equally heretical so-called ‘traditional’ sects.

Symbols of the Holy Spirit

694 Water. The symbolism of water signifies the Holy Spirit’s action in Baptism, since after the invocation of the Holy Spirit it becomes the efficacious sacramental sign of new birth: just as the gestation of our first birth took place in water, so the water of Baptism truly signifies that our birth into the divine life is given to us in the Holy Spirit. As “by one Spirit we were all baptized,” so we are also “made to drink of one Spirit.”27 Thus the Spirit is also personally the living water welling up from Christ crucified28 as its source and welling up in us to eternal life.29   Link

Epistle of Saint Paul to the Romans 6,3:4

Know you not that all we, who are baptized in Christ Jesus, are baptized in his death? [4] For we are buried together with him by baptism into death; that as Christ is risen from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we also may walk in newness of life. [5] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection.

St. John Chrysostom. Homilies on John 6,3:5


What saith He? “Verily I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.” What He declares is this: “Thou sayest that it is impossible, I say that it is so absolutely possible as to be necessary, and that it is not even possible otherwise to be saved.” For necessary things God hath made exceedingly easy also. The earthly birth which is according to the flesh, is of the dust, and therefore heaven641 is walled against it, for what hath earth in common with heaven? But that other, which is of the Spirit, easily unfolds to us the arches642 above. Hear, ye as many as are unilluminated,643 shudder, groan, fearful is the threat, fearful the sentence.644 “It is not (possible),” He saith, “for one not born of water and the Spirit, to enter into the Kingdom of heaven”; because he wears the raiment of death, of cursing, of perdition, he hath not yet received his Lord’s token,645 he is a stranger and an alien, he hath not the royal watchword. “Except,” He saith, “a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of heaven.”

Remove thyself from that which is common and familiar; a different kind of childbirth bring I into the world; in another manner will I have men to be generated: I have come to bring a new manner of Creation. I formed (man) of earth and water; but that which was formed was unprofitable, the vessel was wrenched awry;649 I will no more form them of earth and water, but ‘of water’ and ‘of the Spirit.’…

And if any one asks, “How of water?” I also will ask, How of earth? How was the clay separated into different parts? How was the material uniform, (it was earth only,) and the things made from it, various and of every kind? Whence are the bones, and sinews, and arteries, and veins? Whence the membranes, and vessels of the organs, the cartilages, the 87 tissues, the liver, spleen, and heart? whence the skin, and blood, and mucus, and bile? whence so great powers, whence such varied colors? These belong not to earth or clay. How does the earth, when it receives the seeds, cause them to shoot, while the flesh receiving them wastes them? How does the earth nourish what is put into it, while the flesh is nourished by these things, and does not nourish them? The earth, for instance, receives water, and makes it wine; the flesh often receives wine, and changes it into water. Whence then is it clear that these things are formed of earth, when the nature of the earth is, according to what has been said,650 contrary to that of the body? I cannot discover by reasoning, I accept it by faith only. If then things which take place daily, and which we handle, require faith, much more do those which are more mysterious and more spiritual than these. For as the earth, which is soulless and motionless, was empowered by the will of God, and such wonders were worked in it; much more when the Spirit is present with the water, do all those things so strange and transcending reason, easily take place…

[2.] Do not then disbelieve these things, because thou seest them not; thou dost not see thy soul, and yet thou believest that thou hast a soul, and that it is a something different besides 651 the body.

Let us then believe the declaration of God; that is more trustworthy than actual seeing. The sight often is in error, it is impossible that God’s Word should fail; let us then believe it; that which called the things that were not into existence may well be trusted when it speaks of their nature. What then says it? That what is effected is a Generation. If any ask, “How,” stop his mouth with the declaration of God,667 which is the strongest and a plain proof. If any enquire, “Why is water included?” let us also in return ask, “Wherefore was earth employed at the beginning in the creation of man?” for that it was possible for God to make man without earth, is quite plain to every one. Be not then over-curious…

That the need of water is absolute and indispensable,668 you may learn in this way. On one occasion, when the Spirit had flown down before the water was applied, the Apostle did not stay at this point, but, as though the water were necessary and not superfluous, observe what he says; “Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?” (Acts x. 47.)

In Baptism are fulfilled the pledges of our covenant with God;670 burial and death, resurrection and life; and these take place all at once. For when we immerse our heads in the water, the old man is buried as in a tomb below, and wholly sunk forever;671 then as we raise them again, the new man rises in its stead.672 As it is easy for us to dip and to lift our heads again, so it is easy for God to bury the old man, and to show forth the new. And this is done thrice, that you may learn that the power of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost fulfilleth all this…

To show that what we say is no conjecture, hear Paul saying, “We are buried with Him by Baptism into death”: and again, “Our old man is crucified with Him”: and again, “We have been planted together in the likeness of His death.” ( Rom. vi. 4, 5, 6.) And not only is Baptism called a “cross,” but the “cross” is called “Baptism.” “With the Baptism,” saith Christ, “that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized” ( Mark x. 39 ): and, “I have a Baptism to be baptized with” ( Luke xii. 50 ) (which ye know not); for as we easily dip and lift our heads again, so He also easily died and rose again when He willed or rather much more easily, though He tarried the three days for the dispensation of a certain mystery…

Let us then who have been deemed worthy of such mysteries show forth a life worthy of the Gift, that is, a most excellent conversation;673 and do ye who have not yet been deemed worthy, do all things that you may be so, that we may be one body, that we may be brethren. For as long as we are divided in this respect, though a man be father, or son, or brother, or aught else, he is no true kinsman, as being cut off from that relationship which is from above. What advantageth it to be bound by the ties of earthly family, if we are not joined by those of the spiritual? what profits nearness of kin on earth, if we are to be strangers in heaven? For the Catechumen is a stranger to the Faithful. He hath not the same Head, he hath not the same Father, he hath not the same City, nor Food, nor Raiment, nor Table, nor House, but all are different; all are on earth to the former, to the latter all are in heaven. One has Christ for his King; the other, sin and the devil; the food674 of one is Christ, of the other, that meat which decays and perishes; one has worms’ work for his raiment, the other the Lord of angels; heaven is the city of one, earth of the other. Since then we have nothing in common, in what, tell me, shall we hold communion? Did we remove the same pangs,675 did we come forth from the same womb? This has nothing to do with that most perfect relationship. Let us then give diligence that we may become citizens of the city which is above. How long do we tarry over the border,676when we ought to reclaim our ancient country? We risk no common danger; for if it should come to pass, (which God forbid!) that through the sudden arrival of death we depart hence uninitiated,677 though we have ten thousand virtues, our portion will be no other than hell, and the venomous worm, and fire unquenchable, and bonds indissoluble. 

The latter is a total refutation of the heresy of the salvation of even catechumens, never mind Protestants, Muslims and Buddhists, by Baptism of Desire.

Anyone, who believes and teaches the heresies of salvation by Blood, Desire and Invincible Ignorance, believes they are too are a god, which was the sin of Adam.  In fact, they are presumptuous enough to believe that they are even better than God, because they believe that the clear teachings of Our Lord Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, on the necessity of Baptism with Water and the Holy Ghost and Faith for salvation are unfair and unjust and that they, mere men, are wiser, more merciful and more just than God!

Some More Consequences of the Protestant Heresy.

1) Puritanism and the slaughter of Catholics in England, Ireland, Scotland, the USA and Europe. Irish and Scottish Catholics were forced off their land, starved to death and sold into slavery. The martyrdom of priests and religious by Protestants and Puritans. The destruction of Catholic Churches, Monasteries, Convents, Libraries, sacred Art, Sculpture and Architecture. The puritans were iconoclasts.

It is ironic that the sedevacantistas and so-called ‘ traditional sects’ extoll and promote puritanism as a mode of behaviour for their deluded followers!

2) Calvinism and the consequent capitalist economic system with it’s mirror image, communism. In both systems man is reduced to a mere economic unit. Socialism, Fascism, Corporativism, Mercantilism, and Globalism are also consequences of the Protestant heresy.

3) The industrial revolution and the relegation of the majority of men to wage slavery for the benefit of the few.

4) The emancipation of the jews and the resulting creation of central banks, the debt based money system and the enslavement of generations to pay the usurious interest charged simply for the creation of government debt.

5) Communism, promoted by the jews, responsible for the Bolshevik revolution and the killing of millions of Catholic and Orthodox Russians, Hungarians, Ukranians, Poles, Spanish (in the Spanish civil war) and also countless millions of Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodians etc.

6) Two World Wars promoted by the anglo-protestant /jewish alliance which resulted in the destruction of Catholic Europe and the victory of Communism. The invention of the atomic bomb which killed millions in Japan and deliberately dropped over Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Both these Japanese cities were home to the largest Catholic communities in Japan and the detonation of the atomic bombs effectively wiped out Catholicism in Japan.

7) The jewish/communist Frankfurt School and the success of it’s policy to undermine every Catholic institution; Universities, Schools etc. to replace Catholic values with atheistic communist values leading to the destruction of the family through contraception, abortion the acceptance of homosexuality etc. etc. in order to make the implementation of their goal of world communism easier.

8) The destabilization of Muslim North Africa by the jewish/anglo-protestant alliance to create an influx of Muslim immigrants to complete the destruction of what little remains of Catholic Europe.

The world we know and live in is a world based on protestant and atheistic jewish values. We have no memory or even a vague conception of what a Catholic civilization was, or would be, like. Jews, Protestants and Muslims are the enemies of the Catholic Church and Faith. Not to recognize this and worse, to state that they are ‘our elder brothers in faith”, or “worship the same God” or can be saved by “baptism of desire’ is the vilest insult imaginable to the humble  redemptive sacrifice of Our Lord Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, and we shall be deservedly punished for betraying the faith of our ancestors and the sacrifice of the Holy Martyrs.

The Protestant Heresy

I am so horrified by the recent revelations regarding the harvesting of organs of aborted babies for profit and, horror of horrors, the suspicion that these organs are being experimentally transplanted into other animals to see if complete organs can be grown to be used as a source for transplants in the future, that I decided to anticipate this post. I wanted to remind those who, either because they are ill-informed or who, out of misplaced compassion for Protestant neighbours, colleagues, friends or family, defend the heresy that Protestants can be saved by the Baptism of Desire, that the root cause of this abomination is the Protestant heresy.

‘Protestantism naturally begets toleration of error. Rejecting the principle of authority in religion, it has neither criterion nor definition of faith. On the principle that every individual or sect may interpret the deposit of revelation according to the dictates of private judgement, it gives birth to endless differences and contradictions. Impelled by the law of its own impotence, through lack of any decisive voice of authority in matters of faith, it is forced to recognize as valid and orthodox any belief that springs from the exercise of private judgement. Therefore does it finally arrive, by force of its own premises, at the conclusion that one creed is as good as another; it then seeks to shelter its inconsistency under the false plea of liberty of conscience. Belief is not imposed by a legitimately and divinely constituted authority, but springs directly and freely from the unrestricted exercise of the individual’s reason or caprice upon the subjectmatter of revelation. The individual or sect interprets as it pleases, rejecting or accepting what it chooses. This is popularly called liberty of conscience. Accepting this principle, Infidelity on the same plea rejects all revelation, and Protestantism, which handed over the premise, is powerless to protest against the conclusion; for it is clear that one, who under the plea of rational liberty has the right to repudiate any part of revelation that may displease him, can not logically quarrel with one, who on the same ground repudiates the whole. If one creed is as good as another on the plea of rational liberty, on the same plea no creed is as good as any. Taking the field with this fatal weapon of Rationalism, Infidelity has stormed and taken the very citadel of Protestantism helpless against the foe of its own making.

We find as a result amongst the people of this country (excepting Catholics of course) that authoritative and positive religion has met with utter disaster, and religious beliefs or unbelief’s have come to be mere matters of opinion, wherein there are always essential differences, each one free to make or unmake his own creed or no creed.

Such is the mainspring of the heresy constantly dinned into our ears, flooding our current literature and our press. It is against this that we have to be perpetually vigilant. The more so as it insidiously attacks us on the grounds of a false charity and in the name of a false liberty. Nor does it appeal only to us on the ground of religious toleration.

The principle ramifies in many directions, striking root into our domestic, civil, and political life, whose vigor and health depend upon the nourishing and sustaining power of religion. For religion is the bond which unites us to God, the source and end of all good, and Infidelity, whether virtual as in Protestantism or explicit as in Agnosticism, severs the bond which binds men to God, and seeks to build human society on foundations of man’s absolute independence. Hence we find Liberalism laying down as the basis of its propaganda the following principles:

1. The absolute sovereignty of the individual in his entire independence of God and God’s authority.

2. The absolute sovereignty of society in its entire independence of everything which does not proceed from itself. 

3. Absolute civil sovereignty in the implied right of the people to make their own laws in entire independence and utter disregard of any other criterion than the popular will expressed at the polls and in parliamentary majorities.

4. Absolute freedom of thought in politics, morals, or in religion. The unrestrained liberty of the press. Such are the radical principles of Liberalism. In the assumption of the absolute sovereignty of the individual, that is, his entire independence of God, we find the common source of all the others. To express them all in one term in the order of ideas, they are RATIONALISM or the doctrine of the absolute sovereignty of human reason. Here human reason is made the measure and sum of truth. Hence we have individual, social and political Rationalism, the corrupt fountain head of liberal principles: absolute freedom of worship, the supremacy of the State, secular education repudiating any connection with religion, marriage sanctioned and legitimatized by the State alone, etc.; in one word, which synthesizes all, SECULARIZATION, which denies religion any active intervention in the concerns of public and of private life (19) whether it orate or assassinate; whether it call itself Liberty or Government or the State or Humanity or Reason, or what not, its fundamental characteristic is an uncompromising opposition to the Church.

Liberalism is a world complete in itself; it has its maxims, its fashions, its art, its literature, its diplomacy, its laws, its conspiracies, its ambuscades. It is the world of Lucifer, disguised in our times under the name of Liberalism, in radical opposition and in perpetual warfare against that society composed of the Children of God, the Church of Jesus Christ.’ Link

The separation of Church from state that has occurred because of Protestantism has resulted in secular states and governments that promote and legislate policies that are positively evil. And after the Catholic Church succumbed to heresy at Vatican II, it seems as though states and governments were unleashed from any restraint whatsoever. Over the past fifty years we have seen the widespread use of contraception and subsequent toleration of sodomy; the imposition  of homosexual “marriage’; the almost complete breakdown of the family; the introduction of euthanasia, even for handicapped children; the ubiquity of pornography; in vitro fertilisation and the ‘renting out of wombs’; the legalizing of abortion and now the harvesting of the organs of aborted babies for profit etc. etc. Literally, all Hell has been let loose.

Any Catholic or Lefebvrista, who defends the heresy that Protestants can be saved by Baptism of Desire, implicitly condones the heretical protestant doctrines that have resulted in this situation and are just as responsible for the abortion of infants, as if they were personally wielding the scalpel or suction pump.

I joined an FSSPX community because of the Latin Mass but after four years, on learning that Dom Lefebvre and the FSSPX taught the heresies of salvation by Desire, Blood and Invincible Ignorance, I left immediately. Since then my purpose in life has been to combat these heresies whenever and wherever possible with, I might add, little success.

Soon after joining the community I attended a lecture where Bishop Williamson praised:- the energy of Protestants in combating the legalization of abortion and the decriminalization homosexual activity; the modesty of Muslim women and the strong family ties of the Hindus. I was completely astounded that any Catholic, never mind a Catholic Bishop would say this, and I looked around to see if anyone else was as shocked as myself, to discover that the whole audience was smiling and nodding in agreement! I wondered if I had misheard what the Bishop had said, and this was my first inkling that the FSSPX was not what it purported to be. The point is however, that if it weren’t for the protestant doctrine of the separation of Church and State, no government which recognized the sovereignty of God would have enacted such legislation. And ironically, Protestants who regard homosexual marriage as an abomination, are now being persecuted by the very governments whose independence from the Catholic Church they campaigned and fought for.


The evil teachings of Dom Lefebvre regarding baptism and salvation cont.

‘Does that mean that no Protestant, no Muslim, no Buddhist or animist will be saved? No, it would be a second error to think that. Those who cry for intolerance in interpreting St. Cyprian’s formula, “Outside the Church there is no salvation,” also reject the Creed, “I confess one baptism for the remission of sins,” and are insufficiently instructed as to what baptism is. There are three ways of receiving it: the baptism of water; the baptism of blood (that of the martyrs who confessed the faith while still catechumens) and baptism of desire.’

Here, having dismissed the dogma of ‘Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus’ as ‘ St Cyprian’s formula’, Dom Lefebvre states that those that those Catholics who do believe in the doctrine of EENS and that there is one baptism for the remission of sins do not understand, or are ‘insufficiently instructed” ( how patronising!)  as to  what baptism is. For Dom Lefebvre , the one baptism in the Creed is really three! (This must be the new math).

But in chapter VI he writes:- Our Lord Himself has said in a most clear manner, “No one, unless he be born again of water and the Holy Ghost can enter into the Kingdom of God.” 

As I do not trust one word that Dom Lefebvre wrote, I will give the quote from the Douay Rheims Bible which is slightly different:-  Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.  Our Lord only teaches one baptism, HE never taught salvation by Blood or Desire, so according to Dom Lefebvre, Our Lord Jesus Christ , God Himself , was insufficiently instructed as to what baptism is!

And perhaps Dom Lefebvre himself was insufficiently instructed, in that salvation by Desire and Blood was specifically anathematized, along with every other heresy that had afflicted the Church up until that time, in the Bull  ‘Cantate Domino” of 1445.

It firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart “into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels” [Matt. 25:41], unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is so strong that only to those remaining in it are the sacraments of the Church of benefit for salvation, and do fastings, almsgiving, and other functions of piety and exercises of Christian service produce eternal reward, and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church. Link





Behold I send you as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves. Mt. 10:16

Dom Lefebvre on the Doctrine of EENS Baptism and Salvation.

I had never fully understood the meaning of this teaching of Our Lord Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, until I had to analyse the writings of Dom Lefebvre. To deal with the devil you have to have to have some idea of how the devil works and thinks. Dom Lefebvre’s teachings are as slippery as snakes, you know they are wrong but it is very hard to pin down exactly what is wrong with them. They are like those wild mushrooms that unwary people gather, confusing them with edible mushrooms; in appearance, innocuous; fatal, if ingested.

We must say it clearly: such a concept is radically opposed to Catholic dogma. The Church is the one ark of salvation, and we must not be afraid to affirm it.  You have often heard it said, “Outside the Church there is no salvation”–a dictum which offends contemporary minds. It is easy to believe that this doctrine is no longer in effect, that it has been dropped. It seems excessively severe.

The first thing that puzzled me about that sentence was the use of the word “dictum”. Why not use the word dogma (which it is) or infallible teaching? I looked it up and the legal definition of a dictum is:- Dictum has no binding authority and, therefore, cannot be cited as precedent in subsequent lawsuits. Link

You see how clever and deceitful Dom Lefebvre’s choice of words is. He states here that the dogma of the Catholic Church which is that ‘Outside the Church there is no Salvation’ has no binding authority!

He goes on to state that this dogma or “dictum ” seems excessively severe ( to contemporary minds), the implication being that Catholics are allowed to have an opinion about it. But a dogma of the faith is a Divinely Revealed Objective Spiritual Truth in which you either believe and are a Catholic, or deny and you are a heretic condemned to eternal damnation. Where is his condemnation of those who think that this dogma is excessively severe, in other words, those who deny the dogma, such as that contained in the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX?

17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ. — Encyclical “Quanto conficiamur,” Aug. 10, 1863, etc. ( Condemned Error). Link

Does that mean that no Protestant, no Muslim, no Buddhist or animist will be saved? No, it would be a second error to think that. Those who cry for intolerance in interpreting St. Cyprian’s formula, “Outside the Church there is no salvation,” also reject the Creed, “I confess one baptism for the remission of sins,” and are insufficiently instructed as to what baptism is. There are three ways of receiving it: the baptism of water; the baptism of blood (that of the martyrs who confessed the faith while still catechumens) and baptism of desire.

That first sentence is the most vile, disgusting insult to all the Holy Martyrs that were tortured and died at the hands of Protestants, Muslims, Buddhists and animists rather than recant the Catholic Faith. Martyrs who went to their deaths willingly and joyfully because they sincerely believed that the “outside the Catholic Church there is no Salvation’

No, it would be a second error to think that.

What was the first error? The only meaning I can get from this is that he is referring to the Church as the one ark of salvation because in the next sentence he denies the dogma that outside the Church there is no salvation, which according to him, is the second error.

Those who cry for intolerance in interpreting St. Cyprian’s formula, “Outside the Church there is no salvation,”

Here condemns those who believe in and preach the dogma of EENS as being intolerant! Thus he condemns Our Lord Jesus Christ,God Incarnate, the Apostles, Martyrs , Saints, Saint Athanasius and all the Popes who up until Vatican II condemned religious indifferentism as being intolerant!

St. Cyprian’s formula?  Why use the word formula instead of the word dogma or doctrine? Again, I looked it up and the first two meanings of formula in the I found were:-

a. An established form of words or symbols for use in a ceremony or procedure.
b. An utterance of conventional notions or beliefs; a hackneyed expression.
So for Dom Lefebvre the Divine Truth, the dogma of the Catholic Faith, that there is no Salvation outside the Church are simply words with no real meaning or even, insult of insults, a conventional notion or hackneyed expression.
Why St. Cyprian, why not Saint Athanasius ? I’m afraid that I had never heard of Saint Cyprian until reading this and I still don’t understand why Dom Lefevbre cited him here. But I know there is method in his madness and there must be a diabolical reason behind it. St. Cyprian seemed to have been involved in various disputes with Rome including the re-baptism of heretics which was condemned by Pope Stephen:-
This was not Stephen’s view, and he immediately issued a decree, couched apparently in very peremptory terms, that no “innovation” was to be made (this is taken by some moderns to mean “no new baptism“), but the Roman tradition of merely laying hands on converted heretics in sign of absolution must be everywhere observed, on pain of excommunication. This letter was evidently addressed to the African bishops, and contained some severe censures on Cyprian himself. Link
I haven’t had time to read the whole article on St. Cyprian to gain a better understanding of the issues and some insight into why Dom. Lefebvre would cite him. If anyone more knowledgeable than myself could help, I would be very grateful.